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Public service announcement - this is a completely feelings driven reaction, don't expect in depth analysis! Or sense.

Up front - I enjoyed this one but ... there's always a but.

Lotus

So – where’s Lucifer gone? Has he really ‘gone to Hell’ just because Sam said the words? Or is that something to do with Rowena’s spell? And if so, having Lucifer in Hell but not in the cage isn’t necessarily a good thing now is it.

Mr Ketch’s accent is horrible. Very distracting. American TV seems to think British accents come in two flavours – posh and cockney. A) There are a lot of accents to choose from, plus a neutral one Americans don’t seem to get, and b) that was a terrible attempt at a posh accent. [As for Irish and Scottish, don’t get me started. As an aside, I wonder why they don’t seem to recognise the existence of the Welsh either].

But back to the episode and Mr Ketch - ok, there’s trust and there’s stupidity. Why would he just hand over the exorcism egg and not keep an eye on things to make sure the Winchesters don’t mess up, because the British MoL’s clearly think the Winchester’s are incompetent. Maybe there’s another Mr Ketch rescue awaiting us, since Cas is distracted with his run away Nephillim Mum and Crowley’s disappeared again.

Although I’m enjoying each episode as it comes, I’m not enjoying the way the Winchesters are being presented as pretty crappy hunters. It’s like they are getting results by accident, almost. Still, got to say both boys looked exceptionally pretty, especially in the sunlight, and in chains. Ahem.

I loved Sam calling the MoLs, I loved Dean’s excitement at the grenade launcher, I liked the President/Lucifer. I thought the actor did a great job, and honestly having Lucifer as President could have been a great plot device to keep going for a couple of episodes at least. I was kind of disappointed they terminated that angle so soon. I suppose part of the reason they couldn’t have Lucifer inside the President for too long was because then the President would burn out and the fall out from that could be a little hard to explain.

But overall, I think the episode felt a bit Winchester-lite and I missed my boys a bit. I could see why it was – there was a lot packed in, but yeah, that could have been spread out over 2 episodes and they could then have given us some more brother moments, dialogue/banter…Is that nitpicky of me? I dunno.  As it is, leaving the Winchesters in the hands of the secret service who still have a presidential directive to eliminate them, and are heading ominously for some barn in the middle of nowhere? Yup, that’s a good cliffhanger for a mid season hiatus. Roll on January 26th (27th for me)!

This has been a non reflective, insta-episode-reaction, so I may change my mind when I think about it some more.

Date: 2016-12-09 10:37 am (UTC)
liliaeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liliaeth
Yeah, I have to say that the fall out is probably the reason that the president survived the episode.

It's one thing to cover up an attempted assassination of the president, but if the Winchesters were even just accused of the actual assassination of the president, there's no way they'd ever be able to show their faces in public again.
That was hard enough to believe after 'Slash Fiction', but once they'd be known as the murderers of the president.... the entire country would recognize their faces.

Date: 2016-12-09 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Yup! Every fantasy TV has to reign itself in occasionally. LOL

Date: 2016-12-09 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ash48.livejournal.com
There are just too many questions after this one for me. I enjoyed it (kind of) but yeah - what the hell? I'll have to watch that ending again but looked like "some" of Lu went into the vent and therefore he's still around. So, yeah...I got nothing!

Date: 2016-12-09 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I missed (as usual) who wrote the episode but I'm kind of assuming it was one of the less good writers/teams - I think they tried to cram far too much into a single episode and it suffered because of it. And the enjoying things kinda is where I am at the moment. In some ways it's easier but I miss that excitement.

Date: 2016-12-09 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
It was BuckLeming, baby. Surprised? Yeah, I didn't think so. ;)

Date: 2016-12-09 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Nope, not surprised at all. They make the same basic mistakes every time. I can't understand why the studio can't see it but then again - nepotism rules.

Date: 2016-12-09 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zara-zee.livejournal.com
Some of Lucifer did seem to go down that vent. But was that just going 'down' to the cage? Or did a bit of him go somewhere else?
I'm still not sold on the MOLUK storyline. But we did get Sam and Dean in chains in the custody of the Secret Service. As someone who prompts 'Winchesters v The Law', 'the boys get arrested', 'the boys end up in prison' every Summergen, this makes me very happy! :D
I imagine they'll probably drive them to a barn in the middle of nowhere and then Ketch will get involved somehow, but oh well.

Edited to say that I've just watched the promo for the next ep and...I do hope that over hiatus we get some good fanfic that's based on the snipped they showed!!! :)
Edited Date: 2016-12-09 11:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-12-09 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Aaaaaah - I refuse to watch trailers but now you have me intrigued. Dammit!

Date: 2016-12-09 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sw0rdy.livejournal.com
Edited to say that I've just watched the promo for the next ep and...I do hope that over hiatus we get some good fanfic that's based on the snipped they showed!!! :)

MTE! Just that one shot of Dean was enough to send my brain into overdrive! (See my LJ post)
Edited Date: 2016-12-09 08:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-12-09 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I'm going to have to watch it aren't I.

Date: 2016-12-09 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atxstnic.livejournal.com
Glad I'm not the only one that thought the accent was terrible.
Writers totally missed a change to call the egg thingy a "holy hand grenade" because Dean would totally be a Python fan.
Cas keeps loosing people going to the bathroom. He did it with Metatron. You'd think he'd learn.

Love the Rowena-Crowley moment.

Date: 2016-12-09 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Ha ha yes Cas really should be remembering this stuff... Re: Rowena and Crowley, I get the feeling that the actors are developing a rapport in real life through the acting together and through the conventions, and that this is starting to bleed through (in a good way) into their characters. Those two together on screen do have watchability!

Date: 2016-12-09 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
I called the egg thingy an Eggzorsim. HA HA HA. *cough*

Date: 2016-12-09 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Bwhahahahha!

Date: 2016-12-09 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sw0rdy.livejournal.com
You win the Internet!

Date: 2016-12-09 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
I pretty much agree! I think I'm gonna write a review of this one myself, because I was torn, too. And I need to think on it all. And since we've got a month of pondering ahead...

Date: 2016-12-09 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Yes please, go on! I like to read other people's thinky thoughts!

Date: 2016-12-09 08:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sillie
I find this mid season finalet thing such a stupid concept. Who needs a cliffhanger if you just get a good episode?

Anyway... Wasn't the spell Rowena did supposed to send Luci to the cage? I really hope he's in there and stays there, because I'm so, so, so incredibly done with him, and I never want to see him back on the show. Ever. XD

The ending was... weird, but the boys did look good. :')

Date: 2016-12-09 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugemind.livejournal.com
Many YESes here. :D I agree e.g. about pretty boys, chained boys, and the actor playing the president being great. The accent thing might be because they need to keep it close enough to the American accent so that people understand it. I have to admit that I sometimes have problems with understanding the British accents (even Rowena takes some getting used to) and I suspect that it's because I'm just so used to the American one.

I think that the boys presented as crappy hunters getting results by accident and feeling that there was a lot packed in are both because of the writers. I personally feel that the writer duo who wrote this tends to use a lot of deus ex machina and thinks that action=tension. I like Show, and I've never had any big problems with it, but I'm fearing that if this duo is given any of the big, important episodes to write, Show will start to lose viewers. And I don't want that to happen, because I want to snuggle Show as long as possible.

Date: 2016-12-10 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jj1564.livejournal.com
I so agree with you! Bad accents, some dodgy moments, pretty boys - "especially in the sunlight, and in chains. Ahem." AMEN!

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