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This is a long article and takes some time to read and absorb, but it's really thought provoking. Where the conclusions drawn here about ISIS lie, in the light of ISIS claiming responsibiliity for the Paris attrocities, I'm not sure, but if 90% of this is correct, it actually gives me a little hope. Click on the picture to read the article.

Date: 2015-11-14 11:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughablelament
Thank you for sharing this. I'll need to read it again to absorb it all. For now, know that I can't even explain what a precious antidote it is to American television. Peace and comfort to you.

Date: 2015-11-15 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Same to you...
I don't know how accurate this article is, but it's certainly food for thought. I hope Obama and other world leaders read it. Or at least get better advice than they've been using so far.

Date: 2015-11-15 10:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughablelament
In my experience the Atlantic is an excellent source. Left-leaning, but well researched. In this case I think it's valuable as an alternate interpretation to the conventional. The interviews are fascinating. Even if the subjects aren't actual authorities on IS, again - it's an alternate perspective to what I'm seeing everywhere else.

Anyway, thank you again. Good stuff. <3

Date: 2015-11-15 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I'd not come across this one before - I might try pointing my US friends towards it. Though given that they are all what I'd call ultra conservative, they'd probably loathe it.

Date: 2015-11-15 12:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] theatregirl7299
Thank you for this article. i will be sharing it.

Date: 2015-11-15 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
You're very welcome.

Date: 2015-11-15 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zara-zee.livejournal.com
Thank you for sharing. A really interesting (and frankly very frightening) article. I mean, yikes...all they want is to bring on the end of days; and they're taking a pretty direct approach too.

(ISIS is) like the realization of a dystopian alternate reality in which David Koresh or Jim Jones survived to wield absolute power over not just a few hundred people, but some 8 million.

^^ This explains things quite well. The vast majority of their victims have been other Muslims, because those Muslims are too modern in their interpretation of the Koran. I guess that's why they're all fleeing in terror and asking the West for asylum.

What a mess. I guess we all need to stand in solidarity against ISIS--and that means linking arms with the Muslims that ISIS are persecuting too. Unfortunately so many Westerners are too scared to do that.

I wish I had solutions. All I have is sadness and grief.

Date: 2015-11-15 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Frightening in one way but hopeful in another - because if ISIS really are so constrained by their beliefs, then fighting them becomes much easier. Though it doesn't solve the problem of Al Qaeda and the insidious way they work to undermine western ways of life.

I am worried that ISIS have claimed responsibility for Paris though, as that doesn't fit with the supposed non expansion/disinterest in the west thing. Though I suppose they could be trying to provoke 'Rome' into putting an army in the Middle East.

Whatever is going on, none of it bodes well.

Date: 2015-11-15 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
Thank you for the article honey, I'll have to re-read it to be able to take it all in, but thank you!

Date: 2015-11-15 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I think I need to read it again - there is a lot of information in there.

Date: 2015-11-15 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
There is, but it is interesting to read and to try and do it with a non critical eye, just to take the info in!

Date: 2015-11-15 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anniespinkhouse.livejournal.com
Thank you for this. This seems to be what journalism should be about - and how rare and refreshing is that? It is hopeful if it is mostly true because it means that this is not east against west or muslim against christian - it is one apocalyptic cult against the rest of the world - and if the rest of the world could only unite properly we have more than enough resources and thinkers to defeat it.

Date: 2015-11-15 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Yes exactly, that is why it gives me hope.

Date: 2015-11-15 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chiiyo86.livejournal.com
Thank you for the link - it looks interesting.

Date: 2015-11-15 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
It is - I think.

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