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The thing is – the Winchester brothers were ordinary.

Ordinary kids who were born and brought up into tragedy and learned to deal with it. Ordinary men who lived and died in extraordinary times, and were brought back, over and over, because they were expected to do extraordinary things.

Their pain was real. Their growth and hard-earned wisdom was real. They learned the hard way that they could only rely on each other, that just about every friend they made either betrayed them or died. Their losses were real, their grief was deep and lasting.

They are the heroes of their own story because they turned the ordinary into extraordinary, and because the cost is visible.

No writer should be able to turn around and take that away.

Date: 2020-01-24 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] septembers-coda.livejournal.com
I'm not caught up! How are they taking that away, if you don't mind telling? I don't care at all about spoilers; I like them--they sometimes encourage me to watch sooner. :-)

Date: 2020-01-24 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I don't know where to start.
This week's episode was marketed as a light hearted comedy one but it left a very bitter taste for me. Basically at the end of the last episode Chuck/God apparently took away the Winchester's hero status which meant (har har) suddenly Dean had cavities and was lactose intolerant while Sam kept tripping over things and caught a cold. The episode implied Sam's never had a cold before (stupid) and Dean's never been to the dentist (possible I suppose). But the worst thing about this was the message that came across loud and clear that any competence they'd previously had was Chuck's gift and because they'd been unrealistic heroes in Chuck's story.
If they'd kept it to some kind of bad luck curse like Bad Day at Bad Rock, it could have been amusing, but they didn't. So Sam failed to charm and a character called out his puppy dog eyes, Garth was the badass who saved them from being beaten to a pulp, there were monsters cage fighting each other who got literally blown up by Garth even though they hadn't actually killed any humans and Jensen got to do a black and white Fred Astaire dance as a supposed Dean dreams sequence.
I could go on and on, but it's just too depressing.

Date: 2020-01-24 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] septembers-coda.livejournal.com
Ugh, sounds awful. :-P Like, truly terrible. Dabb-penned, you say? Yeah... he doesn't get it. People complain about Bucklemming, and I don't dig them either, but they don't do that kind of character assassination, and they're kind of good at the relationship stuff, actually.

I've only seen.... 4, I think? episodes of this season, not in order, but for the past couple of years they've really put canon in the blender, with no regard for what comes out, and Dabb is definitely the worst show runner IMO.

Date: 2020-01-24 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I wasn't that bothered before but this season just seems to be getting worse and worse and in a way that is kind of insidious. The last two episodes have felt like the writers just grabbed a handful of tropes and fan service and threw it all up in the air to see where it would land. The fourth wall isn't merely cracked, they've torn it down completely and it's so uncomfortable I was seriously thinking after this morning's viewing that I'm not sure I can watch any more.

I feel like Supernatural has already died and I'm just watching a bunch of people poke the bloated corpse with an electric cattle prod to make its limbs twitch.

Date: 2020-01-24 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] septembers-coda.livejournal.com
Yeeeeah... that's a vivid, terrible, and unfortunately very accurate way to describe it. :-( I felt that way last season, and much of the time since Season 12. The long slow death is torture! I did actually stop last season, and ended up catching up largely because they announced 15 was the end. I thought, maybe they'll pull out the stops and try to make the end really great. It's unfortunate that that seems impossible now. Sorry you're suffering with it!

As for THIS: the writers just grabbed a handful of tropes and fan service and threw it all up in the air to see where it would land. So well put, and I can actually see them doing that ON PURPOSE in the writer's room. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they made an active decision to focus on fan service for the last season. Boooooo, Dabb, booooo.

Date: 2020-01-25 02:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fanspired
> I feel like Supernatural has already died and I'm just watching a bunch of people poke the bloated corpse with an electric cattle prod to make its limbs twitch.

GOOD metaphor!

Date: 2020-01-25 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
ha ha I thought so...

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