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Reading some of my lovely flisties comments about how hurt they have been by dreamweaver37 deception, or how they are feeling foolish for giving him their trust - I think there is something very important you should all bear in mind.

Don't feel bad! We all believed him (or wanted to). The only reason I had any doubts was down to having been taken in before by that micamonroe (who apparently is tragically dead according to his still live LJ). When that happened I looked up this syndrome and it is a thing - people often have multiple online identities (though how the hell they keep up with them all I have no idea) and can even use one ID to reinforce the others. Mostly they are harmless but sometimes theycan be malicious - like that woman on Twitter who has a serious personality disorder and has threatened people in real life (my friend Dave being one).

In this case, I think dreamweaver wasn't malicious, he/she was just looking for attention/reinforcement, maybe a feeling of importance? Who knows.

Whatever the reason, please don't feel bad about this - Think of it this way - any emotional investment we had in this person's story was still real because we genuinely thought here was someone who was doing good things that merited our support. The fact that these things may not have been real doesn't negate our sympathy or empathy or any words of support we might have spoken. The fact that the recipient didn't deserve it doesn't mean our actions were worthless. Our own goodness and thoughtfulness in putting together messages of love doesn't change, neither does the intent behind the messages. So his child wasn't real and we mourned - we've mourned fictional characters before and it's good to feel. Human beings need to feel.

We are still good people who had good thoughts and tried to do good things. That is a truth that his lies cannot change.

And don't let it stop you being kind in future. It's a small risk we take that has a huge impact. Loving someone is always a risk - we can't really get hurt if we don't love.

Um, I'll stop moralising now LOL
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Date: 2015-10-02 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heavenli24.livejournal.com
Wow, this is the first I've heard of any of this (I don't even know who dreamweaver37 is, though the username seems familiar) - what happened?

Date: 2015-10-02 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleepypercy.livejournal.com
This is such a beautiful way of stating everything ♥

It is distressing to have someone make our little LJ fandom feel violated, but connecting with people is always a risk - whether in person or online. But I am still glad for every person on LJ that I have taken a risk on by calling a friend.

Date: 2015-10-02 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] milly-gal.livejournal.com
As I said in pm, good solid advice and sound reasoning and just *hugs* something that I think a lot of us needed to hear!

Doesn't stop it hurting though, and it doesn't stop it making some of us feel foolish, it does however renew my faith in my real friends, which to be honest is quite awe inspiring considering my brain could've gone the other way!

Date: 2015-10-02 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chomaisky.livejournal.com
Well said :)

Date: 2015-10-02 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskygalore.livejournal.com
Absolutely! You put into words exactly what I was thinking, well said :) xx

Date: 2015-10-02 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zara-zee.livejournal.com
We are still good people who had good thoughts and tried to do good things. That is a truth that his lies cannot change.

Well said, Amberdreams!

Date: 2015-10-02 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Oh just a person who made a sockpuppet LJ account that got quite a few of us emotionally invested in their fictitious life. They wrote fanfic and posted about their supposed private life and kids, turns out it was all a lie.

Date: 2015-10-02 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Me too - all the plus factors more than make up for the odd weirdness, I think.

Date: 2015-10-02 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I've got those feelings too but I refuse to dwell - especially when 99% of the people I've met online have been wonderful.

Date: 2015-10-02 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
:D hugs to all my real friends!

Date: 2015-10-02 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
I think some people need to hear it said, you know? :D

Date: 2015-10-02 08:29 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-02 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chomaisky.livejournal.com
<33333 SUPER GLAD TO BE ONE!

Date: 2015-10-02 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badbastion.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting this. I've been feeling physically ill about the whole thing all day. And feeling stupid for believing him, and for actually crying when "his" "child" "died". I wasn't super close to him but I still feel betrayed, and just sick, and every time I logged into LJ today I felt gross. I was considering taking a break from internet for a little while until i felt better about it, and I'm still not sure if I will or not, but your post definitely made me feel at least a little bit better <3 So thank you *hugs*

Date: 2015-10-02 09:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Hugs you back

I know exactly what you mean - I won't lie and say I don't feel a bit that same. But I refuse to let this contaminate all the wonderful folk I've met online, or my self respect. You know? We only feel bad because we feel at all (if that does't sound daft) and that is a good thing.

Date: 2015-10-02 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hybridshade.livejournal.com
Couldn't agree more. Very well said, m'dear! I wasn't particularly invested in them myself (despite being their 'friend') but I hope some others can take comfort in your words :)

Date: 2015-10-02 10:05 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-02 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
Hope so - this kind of thing really sucks.

Date: 2015-10-02 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anniespinkhouse.livejournal.com
Ah, you speak the truth, and when s/he is gone then maybe some of the genuine people who connected over the fake drama will still benefit from knowing each other. There are a lot of kind folks here. Thank you.

Date: 2015-10-02 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com
There are a lot of genuine friendships to be had in this community, the main thing is to remember that, methinks.

Hugs all round for us!

No title

Date: 2015-10-02 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
User [livejournal.com profile] badbastion referenced to your post from No title (http://badbastion.livejournal.com/104904.html) saying: [...] until I felt better about the whole thing, however long that would take. But then I read ' journal [...]

Date: 2015-10-02 10:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-10-02 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herminekurotowa.livejournal.com
Thank you for your words. I know all this, but it still hurts.

Yes, we mourn fictional characters when we read fanfics; the difference is: we know they're fictional.

I thought Saoirse was a real little girl, just six weeks older than K.

Date: 2015-10-02 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madebyme-x.livejournal.com
While I don't know this person on LJ, a lot of my flist do, and your message is beautiful and I was so happy to see you put into words what I feeling while reading all these posts on my feed.

This is a community, and its power comes from what we all invest into it; friendship, love, compassion and positivity. It's a thing to be proud of, and celebrated, and we should never feel that what we put into it is wasted.

Well said Amb! And thank you ♥

Date: 2015-10-02 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sw0rdy.livejournal.com
Wise words from a wise lady. I saw posts about 'dreamweaver37' via various people on my friends list back when their child died, so naturally I went to their journal to read their story and straight away something felt 'off' about them. To be honest, their lives read like fanfic - a perfect gay couple with a bunch of kids no one else wanted?

I'm the first to admit however, that by nature I am horribly cynical so I just told myself I was a shitty human being for even doubting their validity when they were obviously well established in the SPN community. I've been around other fandoms a long time and seen various versions of this kind of thing, so maybe that's where my cynicism really kicked in. Either way, I was happy to be a shitty, mistrustful person if it means there are awesome people like this out there.

And there ARE. That's what all the people who got hurt by this deception (and cynics like me) need to remember. The truly good people are the ones who share a near-stranger's pain and do nice things to try and ease their suffering without an iron-clad guarantee that the stranger is who they say they are. No one should feel foolish for trying to see the best in people.

*hugs to everyone who is hurting*

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