Season 9 The Purge insta-reaction

[amberdreams]

This really is an instant, gut reaction - oh boy. That was depressing.
I did chuckle a bit at some of it in the early parts, but overall, I'm sitting here now, my stomach is hurting and it's not from laughing. The way Sam and Dean are at the moment makes me feel queasy.
That's all.

Comments

[freya922.livejournal.com]

I'm there with you, sister.

This is so painful, but it also feels very real to me, like stuff people in this much agony would say. I think Sam is not saying "I'd let you die because I don't care" but "I'd let you die in these world saving circumstances if you wanted that because I love you that much."

I want Dean to remind him that he DID do that...bet you he does later. Also bet Sam gets put in the circumstance himself by the end and it ain't so easy.

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

I'm feeling better now, LOL. I need to have a rewatch... I think Sam had to say this and Dean needed to hear it, but I'm also certain Dean's immediate reaction is that Sam is saying, I don't love you as much as you love me (or worse, I don't love you). On the back of certain scenes in Dean's history - like the YED inside his Dad saying "they don't need you, not like you need them", or Sam under the Siren's influence saying "you hold me back", and so on and so on...it's far easier for someone with Dean's self esteem issues to see this as a kick in the teeth from the person he loves and needs the most.

And we've already seen he's hitting the bottle again, even before this, just from Sam's we hunt but not as brothers (and the guilt over Kevin's death of course).

[jj1564.livejournal.com]

My gut reaction was that Sam is a selfish cold-hearted bastard! I'm not sure if the writers have forgotten the lengths Sam went to to save Dean in 'Faith' or how he tried to hard to save Dean from hell, or how devastated he was to see Dean die over & over again in 'Mystery Spot. I could go on, but basically I think Sam's character has changed too much and it's getting annoying. As you said, Dean's self-esteem is at an all time low and Sam's words will just hurt him more. His face at the end. so sad! On the plus side Jared looked good in his gym wear and Jensen still managed to look attractive in the hairnet!! Sorry for the ramblings.

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

I think a lot of people are feeling the same, but I do (on reflection) think Sam is right to be calling Dean on this even though Dean is not going to understand that Sam isn't saying "I don't love you or care for you". You could see in his face that's exactly the message he'll be getting. Now we just need to wait and see whether the writers are good enough to dig us all out of this hole!

[jj1564.livejournal.com]

Perhaps Sam needed to get it all of his chest and in hindsight some of Dean's decisions (and Sam's!) have been misguided; however, he could have chosen his words more carefully! It will be interesting to see where the story goes.

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

Ah but when have the Winchesters ever really managed to say what should be said in the right way, hey? I'm sure they just do it to wind us fans up! LOL

[http://users.livejournal.com/tesserae_/]

Do you know Ash? She has an excellent and nuanced review of the ep that you might want to read. In it, she makes a lot of sense about what Sam's actually saying (and not saying) with his response at the end. It's not locked and it's here.

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

I do and I have, thank you! I like to get my first reaction down before I read anything else - but Ash always cheers me up.

[tarynelliott.livejournal.com]

*sigh* I feel ya, darlin'. GOD, this episode had all the highs and lows that I love. But man, the lows are like a trench filled with half formed cement. I just hope we see Dean dig out before he's wearing cement shoes.

*sigh*

Sam isn't the bad guy, but DANG...they really are making the tough love talks end with hammer blows.

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

Yes, hammer blows is right... :-(

[tarynelliott.livejournal.com]

*sigh* Yeah. I just wrote up my thoughts. I know it's good that the writers can make me so riled up about this but FUCK, man. There's a two ton weight on my chest because of these two.

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

Someone posted this - it actually summarises how I was feeling this morning! LOL

[tarynelliott.livejournal.com]

hahahahahhahaa. Oh man. LOL So wrong, and yet...so accurate!

[amberdreams.livejournal.com]

IKR?