amberdreams | Season 15 finale number 1

So.

Yup. That happened, and then it all ended, and yet we have another ending next week? Why do I feel like I'm watching Lord of the Rings Return of the King all over again?

What did you all think?

My insta (or nearly insta as it's a few hours later) reaction is one of confusion. It was a Buck Lemming episode so it was a bit of a jumbled mess and of course they had to bring Lucifer back. But it was also - kind of sweet, and semi-exciting, and there was a twist that actually worked? So I don't really know what to think.

Other than I'd be MORE than happy to end the show here - with just you and me, Sammy, in Baby, driving into a vague and undefined sunset future. There's enough openness in that for us to create any number of fanfics about what comes next. With Jack everywhere but detatched and serene (for now), the brothers together but alone, and the intriguing thought that the next angel to die will become the new Death. (I'm thinking it might be any angel, since Reapers are angels, right?).

I'm now kind of dreading next week, because Dabb has proved he has no idea what a good story is, and I fear he's been listening far too much to the loud voices on Twitter for direction. But he might surprise me. Buck Lemming did, after all.

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I'm feeling similarly...I was worried about this being a BuckLemming episode and there were definitely some of the usual hallmarks of their lazy writing, but they did okay and I very much liked where we ended up.

I'm worried about next week, too. I would have been very happy with the show ending with the boys driving off into the sunset together. The way things are, people could headcanon any resurrection or ship they wanted to happen after that final scene, and go pretty much anywhere with fanworks. That's a nice place to be and I don't want to see it go away...

I've been more forgiving of recent seasons than some, I think, so I'm also cautiously hopeful. IDK. Fingers crossed. If it's awful, hopefully we can all agree to kind of collectively forget about it the way the Harry Potter fandom did with the epilogue and pretend this was the real end, lol.

Yes there is always the good old Ignore it option! Let's hope we won't need it. And that we still get an ending open enough for a) fanfic and b) a reboot SPN movie and/or mini series!

Yes! I know Jared and Jensen have both already expressed willingness to come back for more someday in the future, which I think bodes well for the finale. It seems unlikely they'd be saying that if there was a real shut-the-book type of ending.

P.S. I meant to say in my first comment that Reapers ARE angels, and that's a very interesting idea that any angel who died could be the next Death! They'd said in the past that only the next Reaper who dies becomes the new one, but who knows how Jack might choose to tweak things and open it up to any angel. I could see Anael being kind of a cool Death...

Well last week I'd had the thought that Castiel might become Death since he was the first angel to die or kind of die when Billie did. In a way that could have been a very cool twist!

Ohhhhh I would have loved that! He'd be a very good Death. Compassionate and kind, but also taking no shit, lol.

IKR? And think of the fun you could have with Cas getting to grips with the idea, and Dean's reaction when he found out LOL

:D I'm so filing this away for a possible future fic idea (assuming you don't mind, of course!).

I'm in the middle of a long, long writers block, so help yourself! I'd love to read it if you give it a whirl.

Yes, that's what it feels like--the Return of the Kings ending!

Only one of my friends pointed out we got the 'happy ever after' ending this week so, since Supernatural has always been a tragedy, next week we get our hearts ripped out and stomped on...

That's what's worrying me!

I was satisfied with the ending, in that I liked Jack becoming all-powerful, defeating God, and then choosing to be hands-off in his own role as God. Michael and Lucifer worked better than I expected too.

I found the beating of Sam and Dean to be tedious, been-there-done-that, and a little ludicrous given what a shrimp Rob is. (I know, God-strength, yeah, yeah). If they wanted Jack to absorb more of God's power, I wish they had come up with something more fresh. The boys bleed and wince so nicely, but this was over-the-top and gratutitous. Again.

The montage of their past glories seemed somewhat random. I can think of loads of vidders who could have come up with something more engaging, poignant, and/or powerful than we got. Wasted opportunity there. I expected (naively) to be more more emotional engaged in the episode, but nada.

And despite all that... it was an okay episode!

Agreed, very much so. I hated the graphic violence and then also how silly it was the boys could stand up on broken legs etc, but they kind of redeemed that slightly by that whole powering up Jack thing. Though yep, it was clumsy and better writers could definitely have done something much more imaginative.

Still, it was a lot better than I'd expected, and strangely satisfying. Which of course makes me apprehensive all over again about next week!

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I find my initial reactions tended more to nitpick and the more I think about the episode, the more my thoughts linger on what I liked. Which is good!

The boys were smart (something the writers sometimes forget), not just pawns. They were defiant, and united. They got the ending they deserved and earned.

But I think I will pick up a pint of ice cream for next week's finale, in case I need the comfort fix. ;D

I was SO relieved they were BOTH smart, they were united and determined and neither of them was made to look like a dick. Bloody hell, Sam even had lines and got a chance to be badass. I'm counting my blessings!

I did enjoy this episode, and I was pleasantly surprised by the ending. So now Cas is gone, Jack is gone, it's all going to boil down to Sam and Dean at the end which is exactly as it should be.

That said, I'm more than a little apprehensive about next week's episode because I know it's been said many times, on the inside and on the outside that Supernatural couldn't have a happy ending...

I just hope that whatever happens, and as others have said, that there is enough leeway left to give us hope for a reboot or movie!

The discord server I'm in, which contains some pretty talented writers, are planning to write a Season 16 - they have a writers' room and everything!

Season 15 finale number 1 - insta reaction

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