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amberdreams) wrote2016-01-21 09:53 am
amberdreams) wrote2016-01-21 09:53 am
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The devil really IS in the details, ain't it?
Season 11 Episode 10: The Devil in the Details
Before I read anyone else’s reactions, I’m jotting down a few thoughts.
First – while I was watching I was engrossed. No critisisms of the grippingness of it, I was hooked. So good job there Mr Dabb.
But.
Yeah I know, there’s always a but. Now I’ve had wee while to digest it, I’m left with a few issues about Lucifer taking over Castiel/Castiel’s vessel.
Castiel is in a human vessel that said yes to Cas ages ago, and whose soul (the person whose consent was required for occupation) has long gone. Query – does this mean Castiel now has the right to consent? I suppose it does, because he has.
We know that Jimmy’s vessel is strong enough for Cas, and we also know it was strong enough to hold all the Leviathans and a pseudo-God, so can we canonically assume it is now strong enough for an archangel, even though Jimmy wasn’t part of the angelic breeding programme? I guess we have to. Though I seem to recall Castiel’s human form suffering while it was vessel for those additional powerful beings, so maybe not. Maybe that is where they are going with this, having Castiel’s human vessel decay and burn out as a result of housing Lucifer.
Which raises another question. Is Castiel’s grace still in there? Cohabiting? Or does one angel’s grace push the other out? In which case, where is Cas? Presumably he could wander off and find another vessel.
As an aside, I’m not sure Misha’s acting is up to Mark Pellegrino’s standards. Sorry Misha fans, but Mr Pellegrino is bloody good at the whole doing evil with a smile routine, and I am sorry we aren’t going to get more of his Lucifer. Plus I’m a bit disappointed they didn’t have Dean say yes - though the analysis of the situation Sam gave for his refusal was a logical reason for saying no, and continuing to say no. (And Sammy was awesome – back to his clever, thoughtful, courageous self).
Anyhow, whatever the answer they come up with to those slightly wobbly bits, I still think this was a great episode. Give me all the still-interesting and menacing Amaras, beaten up boys, dead Rowenas and badass/cowering Crowleys you want, chaps, I’ll be more than happy to watch.
Oh and a thought on Rowena – she’s in Hell already, so what’s to stop her coming back as a demon? Nothing that I can see. And now she’s dead, surely that makes her even more dangerous.
Now I'm off to trawl my flist to see what insights y'all had, because I'm usually a bit slow on the uptake.
Before I read anyone else’s reactions, I’m jotting down a few thoughts.
First – while I was watching I was engrossed. No critisisms of the grippingness of it, I was hooked. So good job there Mr Dabb.
But.
Yeah I know, there’s always a but. Now I’ve had wee while to digest it, I’m left with a few issues about Lucifer taking over Castiel/Castiel’s vessel.
Castiel is in a human vessel that said yes to Cas ages ago, and whose soul (the person whose consent was required for occupation) has long gone. Query – does this mean Castiel now has the right to consent? I suppose it does, because he has.
We know that Jimmy’s vessel is strong enough for Cas, and we also know it was strong enough to hold all the Leviathans and a pseudo-God, so can we canonically assume it is now strong enough for an archangel, even though Jimmy wasn’t part of the angelic breeding programme? I guess we have to. Though I seem to recall Castiel’s human form suffering while it was vessel for those additional powerful beings, so maybe not. Maybe that is where they are going with this, having Castiel’s human vessel decay and burn out as a result of housing Lucifer.
Which raises another question. Is Castiel’s grace still in there? Cohabiting? Or does one angel’s grace push the other out? In which case, where is Cas? Presumably he could wander off and find another vessel.
As an aside, I’m not sure Misha’s acting is up to Mark Pellegrino’s standards. Sorry Misha fans, but Mr Pellegrino is bloody good at the whole doing evil with a smile routine, and I am sorry we aren’t going to get more of his Lucifer. Plus I’m a bit disappointed they didn’t have Dean say yes - though the analysis of the situation Sam gave for his refusal was a logical reason for saying no, and continuing to say no. (And Sammy was awesome – back to his clever, thoughtful, courageous self).
Anyhow, whatever the answer they come up with to those slightly wobbly bits, I still think this was a great episode. Give me all the still-interesting and menacing Amaras, beaten up boys, dead Rowenas and badass/cowering Crowleys you want, chaps, I’ll be more than happy to watch.
Oh and a thought on Rowena – she’s in Hell already, so what’s to stop her coming back as a demon? Nothing that I can see. And now she’s dead, surely that makes her even more dangerous.
Now I'm off to trawl my flist to see what insights y'all had, because I'm usually a bit slow on the uptake.